Roman Reigns is the New Universal Champ! Matt and Tyler discuss his recent alignment with Paul Heyman and what that means going forward. Hangman Page betrays the Young Bucks and costs them a title opportunity and the end of an era for the elite. Moxley outwits MJF in a contract signing. Dominik impresses again as the Mysterio’s fight Rollins and Murphy.
The guys convene to discuss players walking off the court and the reasons behind it, then get into what’s comes next for the Philadelphia 76ers, Chicago Bulls, and more!
Summerslam at the Thunderdome featured the debut of Dominik Mysterio, the return of Roman Reigns, and multiple title changes. On Raw, the action continued with Randy Orton facing Keith Lee, that left Tyler and Matt underwhelmed, to say the least. They vent it out on this episode of No Count Outs.
Sunday saw two teams eliminated from the postseason as Jayson Tatum and the Boston Celtics put Joel Embiid and what was left of the Philadelphia 76ers out of their misery. Later on, the Toronto Raptors looked very much like an apex predator in their drubbing of the “other guys” Brooklyn Nets.
It was the same fate for both teams; an unceremoniously early exit from what has otherwise been an exciting playoffs in the bubble. But make no mistake about it, it doesn’t mean the same thing for both teams.
Nets, 76ers Face Different Futures After Suffering Same Fate
Brooklyn’s Breakout Blocked
Ironically, it is the Nets, who allowed at least 34 points in every quarter, that have a brighter future.
They can at least hang their hat on the fact that next year Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving will be on the floor and possibly challenging for an Eastern Conference Finals berth. Sure, they don’t have a head coach at the moment and the two aforementioned stars reportedly want to trade for a third star, but neither task is too tall.
Finding the right compliment on the floor is probably the tougher task. Not only for actual basketball reasons, but also the financial situation around the NBA after COVID…well, you know.
It may come as a surprise after seeing some of the playoff performances from the likes of Caris Levert (15.3 PTS/10.7 AST/6.0 REB) and Joe Harris (16.5 PTS/10.0 REB), that they feel the need to look outside for help. Don’t forget, they also have Spencer Dinwiddie who opted out of the restart.
If it made sense, Kenny Atkinson would likely still be the head coach.
Brooklyn is in a great position to make noise next year and beyond. This does make a couple of assumptions though.
For one, that Durant and Irving will work on the floor. But to be honest, that concern is probably minimal. While Irving can be a ball stopper, Durant’s insane efficiency should offset it. Even this is assuming Durant comes back as the same guy he was before his Achilles injury and that Irving can stay healthy.
Chemistry and health make this one of the most volatile situations in the NBA. The risk seems well worth the reward, though.
Considering the Nets lost each game by an average of more than 20 points (a number salvaged by only losing by five points in Game 2), adding Durant (29.1/7.7/4.0 in the playoffs) and Irving (23.5 PPG and 5.0 APG) should allay any fears the fanbase might have after this postseason.
Philly’s Process to be 86ed?
The Philadelphia 76er embarked on one of the most blatant tanking plans ever back in 2013. Seven years and three playoff appearances later, it may all be coming to an end. Getting swept by the Celtics is but a small part of the story. After all, when one of the two prized pieces from that years-long process, Ben Simmons, went out with knee injury, so did Philly’s title hopes.
Let’s start with Harris (15.8/9.5/4.0) and Horford (7.0/7.3/2.3), the prized free-agent duds. Harris’ numbers seem ok, but in addition to being paid like a 20 PPG guy, he shot 38.3% from the floor and 13.3% from deep. Horford was miscast and perhaps has lost a step.
They were overpaid (bet they miss Jimmy Butler) and misused by Brown.
But the greatest crime committed has been not getting the most out of the Simmons-Embiid combo to the point where breaking them up seems more likely than keeping them together any longer.
It isn’t just one of the stars either. Both Simmons and Embiid have been subject to trade rumors, largely due to there not being a consensus as to who is the more valuable piece.
Personally, the thought is that Embiid is probably the better talent but Simmons is the part needed to make it work. That is to say, no one is as dominant as Embiid when he’s right, justifying the comparisons to Shaq. But, in a guard league, Simmons is probably the more important piece when building a team.
That isn’t to say one can’t work without the other. Most solid point guards could utilize Embiid and pick and pop big would be successful next to Simmons.
On the contrary, it might point to how much they need each other, and Philly’s need to figure things out around them. There was too much effort put in to break these two up after they have had even a modicum of success. The better plan is for the 76ers to fee themselves of Harris and Horford.
But those contracts are albatrosses. Neither will return value and may even have to go at a severe discount. Does that improve Philly’s outlook moving forward? Probably not. That shifted the focus to where it’s been, Brown, who has now been fired.
They Say It’s the Same But It’s Not the Same
Yes, these teams faced the same fate but their futures are going in vastly different directions. Both will have someone new at head coach. But whereas the Nets will be adding two bonafide star players to a group that showed a little fight this postseason, the 76ers are trying to avoid de-processing. That’s tough.
All eyes on you, Indiana Pacers…
2 huge shows, 1 mega episode. Dynamite and Takeover thrill Matt and Tyler. They go overtime, gushing over Keith Lee, Brodie Lee, Pat McAfee and more. Big title changes, major payoffs. All in this edition of No Count Outs.