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No Count Outs: You Know What That Means

No Count Outs – “You Know What That Means”

RIP, Mr. Brodie Lee/Luke Harper

The loss of John Huber (Mr. Brodie Lee/LukeHarper) was felt around the wrestling world. AEW and WWE honored the loss of a wrestler, father, and man. Many wrestlers, such as Big E and Eddie Kingston, shared stories of their time spent with the Exalted One, Big Rig, and Luke Harper. He held many personas but his legacy has just one face. Dynamite featured a card built by Minus One, Huber’s son Brodie. This included a main event of his favorite stars: Orange Cassidy, Cody Rhodes, and Preston Vance. That and more on another jam packed episode of the No Count Outs wrestling podcast.

No Count Outs: WWE Culture and Sting's First Match No Count Outs

The Undertaker spoke to Joe Rogan about WWE's Culture inside the locker room culture then and now. WWE has set the top championship matches for the Royal Rumble. Kevin Owens will face Roman Reigns and Drew McIntire will face Goldberg.  Raw had some confusing angles involving Alexa Bliss and Randy Orton. On Wednesday NXT the Dusty Rhodes Tag Team Classic was featured heavily with the men and women. Lucha House Party advanced over Imperium as well as Leon Ruff and Kushida beat The Way. Big upset on the women's side as Toni Storm's momentum was halted as she and Mercedes Martinez lost to Carter and Catanzaro. During the week, AEW and Impact continued to intermingle. Private Party became the new number one contenders for Impact tag titles. MJF and Chris Jericho defeated the rest of the Inner Circle in tag competition. Sting's first match was teased as Darby Allin accepted a street fight against Team Taz. Follow the show @NoCountOutsPod . Keep tabs on hosts Matt Dahlberg (@M_broski21) and Tyler Pearson (@T_pearson10four). Email the show at NoCountOuts@gmail.com! — This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

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We All Want To See It But Can Shaq vs. Cody work?

Will AEW finally pay off the dram and give fans a match between NBA Hall of Famer Shaquille O’Neal and Cody Rhodes? Despite making appearances on WCW and WWE programming multiple times the Big Diesel has never had an official match.

Can a Shaquille O’Neal vs Cody Rhodes Matchup Work?

History

Celebrities and pro wrestling have a long and storied history. On paper, it’s a win-win. Fans feel the excitement of worlds colliding. Seeing an actor, athlete, or personality crossover with a John Cena, Sting, or Roman Reigns creates buzz. For the celebrity, entering the squared circle can fulfill a lifelong dream and create iconic moments. In execution, most matches are heavily gimmicked and are a mixed bag at best. For every windfall, there seem to be two or three disasters when it comes to expectation vs. result. 

The Good

 A celebrity match doesn’t have to be the most technical. The appearance doesn’t even have to be very long. But fans want a satisfying build and payoff. One of the best examples of both has to be Vince McMahon vs. Donald Trump in the battle of the billionaires.

Back when Trump was the host of the Apprentice, he and Vince went back and forth on Raw one-upping each other, with Trump famously dropping “thousands of dollars” to the audience on fan appreciation night.

The feud would culminate at Wrestlemania 23 in a hair vs. hair match Bobby Lashley vs. Umaga with special guest referee Stone Cold Steve Austin. Vince and Umaga lost, and McMahon paid with the loss of his locks. Trump for his part, even took a stunner from Stone Cold, albeit not the prettiest of selling jobs from the current president. 

For a more recent example, Pat McAfee stunned most of the internet wrestling community by having a high quality against NXT superstar Adam Cole at Takeover 30. Many people were doubtful the former punter turned sports entertainer could back up his talk on the mic. In the storyline, McAfee had only two weeks to prepare to fight Cole, despite the limited experience he impressed with his athleticism, charisma, and overall ring awareness.    

The Bad

Most long-term fans of wrestling would rather forget most celebrity appearances. And while it’s impossible to list all of them there are a few examples that especially stick out as being excruciatingly bad. Basketball fans will remember the endless self-promotion of the Ball family and Big Baller Brand in 2017. LaVar Ball and his sons LaMelo and Lonzo Ball were featured in an ill-fated segment on the June 26th episode of Raw. 

In one of the worst Miz TV segments, Miz talked with LeVar about the possibility of joining BBB. After awkwardly squabbling with the Ball’s and LaMelo mistakenly saying the N-Word live on air, the wrestler formerly known as Dean Ambrose (now Jon Moxley) broke up the segment by announcing he had joined BBB. 

This year WWE fans were reminded that just because an individual is gifted in traditional sports doesn’t mean that translates well to the ring. Rob Gronkowski, arguably one of the best NFL tight ends of his generation, hosted this year’s Wrestlemania.

Gronkowski captured the 24/7 championship but showed little potential in the ring or on the mic. The former Patriot star ended his brief wrestling career when he rejoined former teammate Tom Brady in Tampa after being traded to the Buccaneers.

Will Shaq Work

You either learn from the past or you are doomed to repeat it. This is especially true for Tony Khan and Rhodes in their attempts to recruit the legendary seven-foot plus hooper. Shaq was scheduled to appear in Wrestlemania 33 against the Big Show, but the constant changing of plans “messed it up” according to O’Neal himself.

The big Aristotle could also land in the camp of Gronkowski as an athlete that can’t transition to the wrestling world. The now NBA analyst is nearly 20 years older than Gronk. It’s unlikely at best that he could wrestle a full match one-on-one against Cody and give the fans a satisfying finish. 

If Last week’s dynamite is any indication AEW could see its very first mixed tag match as a promotion. Jade Cargill, a newly signed AEW talent and former college basketball player spoke on behalf of Shaq last Wednesday. She interrupted Rhodes in the center of the ring, and gave a long-winded speech, dubious of Rhode’s claim of being a “giant killer”.

The segment was punctuated by a strong Brandi Rhodes promo. A tag match would properly limit O’Neal’s in-ring time while hopefully maintaining the star power. The biggest concern is Cargill who also has limited ring work.

Can Shaquille O’Neal vs Cody Rhodes Work?

Khan has a tough challenge ahead of himself and several variables are incredibly hard to control. If anyone associated with the feud has to be quarantined for Covid-19 exposure or positivity the entire contest could be postponed. The longer this builds, the more likely something could go wrong. My first reaction is skepticism. So many great ideas AEW has had have fallen by the wayside despite the company and performers’ best efforts. The Matt Hardy debut, championship builds starting and stopping, and Will Hobbs’ push being paused multiple times creates worry and casts doubt.

The optimist in me sees evidence that both Rhodes and Shaq will make this work. Both men are under contract for TNT and have partaken in creative advertising before. Each individual is already invested in this so it will be more difficult to back out of. AEW has already successfully had some notable star appearances including a segment in which Chris Jericho brawled with Mike Tyson. Plenty of pitfalls await this feud. But AEW has a chance to make an iconic moment with Shaq if they play their cards right.    

No Count Outs:It’s a Fully Pac’d Show

In this episode of No Count Outs, the Full Gear Pay-Per-View finally happened. New champions crowned in the Young Bucks and Darby Allin in their respective matches against FTR and Cody Rhodes. Other champs had better fortune. Hikaru Shida and Jon Moxley kept their titles. WWE had high-stakes matches of their own. Johnny Gargano lost his North American title to Leon Ruff. Sasha Banks overcame her past to hold on to her belt over her long rival Bayley. On Dynamite, Pac made his return to break up Eddie Kingston’s family.

No Count Outs: WWE Culture and Sting's First Match No Count Outs

The Undertaker spoke to Joe Rogan about WWE's Culture inside the locker room culture then and now. WWE has set the top championship matches for the Royal Rumble. Kevin Owens will face Roman Reigns and Drew McIntire will face Goldberg.  Raw had some confusing angles involving Alexa Bliss and Randy Orton. On Wednesday NXT the Dusty Rhodes Tag Team Classic was featured heavily with the men and women. Lucha House Party advanced over Imperium as well as Leon Ruff and Kushida beat The Way. Big upset on the women's side as Toni Storm's momentum was halted as she and Mercedes Martinez lost to Carter and Catanzaro. During the week, AEW and Impact continued to intermingle. Private Party became the new number one contenders for Impact tag titles. MJF and Chris Jericho defeated the rest of the Inner Circle in tag competition. Sting's first match was teased as Darby Allin accepted a street fight against Team Taz. Follow the show @NoCountOutsPod . Keep tabs on hosts Matt Dahlberg (@M_broski21) and Tyler Pearson (@T_pearson10four). Email the show at NoCountOuts@gmail.com! — This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

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No Count Outs: This is Real

In this episode of No Count Outs: the go-home show for AEW Full Gear, Jon Moxley had a war of words with Eddie Kingston. The Young Bucks narrowly avoided severe injury as Adam Page and Kenny Omega saved Nick and Matt from a viscous assault from FTR. Cody and Darby Allin continued to circle each other days before their Pay-Per-View collision.

NXT was chock full of shenanigans. Dakota Kai, with assistance from Raquel Gonzales, gave Ember Moon her first defeat since her comeback. Toni Storm defeated Shotzi Blackheart with interference from Candice LeRae. Halloween continues to haunt Cameron Grimes as he lost to the timesplitter Kushida after the return of Zombies.

No Count Outs: WWE Culture and Sting's First Match No Count Outs

The Undertaker spoke to Joe Rogan about WWE's Culture inside the locker room culture then and now. WWE has set the top championship matches for the Royal Rumble. Kevin Owens will face Roman Reigns and Drew McIntire will face Goldberg.  Raw had some confusing angles involving Alexa Bliss and Randy Orton. On Wednesday NXT the Dusty Rhodes Tag Team Classic was featured heavily with the men and women. Lucha House Party advanced over Imperium as well as Leon Ruff and Kushida beat The Way. Big upset on the women's side as Toni Storm's momentum was halted as she and Mercedes Martinez lost to Carter and Catanzaro. During the week, AEW and Impact continued to intermingle. Private Party became the new number one contenders for Impact tag titles. MJF and Chris Jericho defeated the rest of the Inner Circle in tag competition. Sting's first match was teased as Darby Allin accepted a street fight against Team Taz. Follow the show @NoCountOutsPod . Keep tabs on hosts Matt Dahlberg (@M_broski21) and Tyler Pearson (@T_pearson10four). Email the show at NoCountOuts@gmail.com! — This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

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No Count Outs: The Season of the Twitch

NXT Takeover 31 saw the return of Ember Moon and Toni Storm. Along with a stacked card matches that included Io Sharai versus Candice LaRae, and Kyle O’Reilly facing off against Finn Balor. WWE continues to crack down on talent revenue, this time a proposed takeover of wrestler’s Twitch accounts. AEW kept fans on their toes, teasing a possible feud between MJF and Chris Jericho a week before his 30th-anniversary show. Cody fakes out the crowd during his promo against Brodie Lee, and Jon Moxley faces an unexpected opponent in The Butcher.

No Count Outs: WWE Culture and Sting's First Match No Count Outs

The Undertaker spoke to Joe Rogan about WWE's Culture inside the locker room culture then and now. WWE has set the top championship matches for the Royal Rumble. Kevin Owens will face Roman Reigns and Drew McIntire will face Goldberg.  Raw had some confusing angles involving Alexa Bliss and Randy Orton. On Wednesday NXT the Dusty Rhodes Tag Team Classic was featured heavily with the men and women. Lucha House Party advanced over Imperium as well as Leon Ruff and Kushida beat The Way. Big upset on the women's side as Toni Storm's momentum was halted as she and Mercedes Martinez lost to Carter and Catanzaro. During the week, AEW and Impact continued to intermingle. Private Party became the new number one contenders for Impact tag titles. MJF and Chris Jericho defeated the rest of the Inner Circle in tag competition. Sting's first match was teased as Darby Allin accepted a street fight against Team Taz. Follow the show @NoCountOutsPod . Keep tabs on hosts Matt Dahlberg (@M_broski21) and Tyler Pearson (@T_pearson10four). Email the show at NoCountOuts@gmail.com! — This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

No Count Outs: Which One Are You?

Clash of Champions “Gold Rush” Featured an ad-libbed card the had a few misses, but overall a solid Pay-Per-View. Asuka worked double duty, Randy Orton was forced to face his ghosts against Drew McIntyre, and Roman Reigns asserted his dominance over Jey Uso. AEW scrambled with booking as well. Eddie Kingston fought Jon Moxley for the world title and Brodie Lee extinguished Orange Cassidy. Cody made his return with a new look and a familiar attitude.

No Count Outs: WWE Culture and Sting's First Match No Count Outs

The Undertaker spoke to Joe Rogan about WWE's Culture inside the locker room culture then and now. WWE has set the top championship matches for the Royal Rumble. Kevin Owens will face Roman Reigns and Drew McIntire will face Goldberg.  Raw had some confusing angles involving Alexa Bliss and Randy Orton. On Wednesday NXT the Dusty Rhodes Tag Team Classic was featured heavily with the men and women. Lucha House Party advanced over Imperium as well as Leon Ruff and Kushida beat The Way. Big upset on the women's side as Toni Storm's momentum was halted as she and Mercedes Martinez lost to Carter and Catanzaro. During the week, AEW and Impact continued to intermingle. Private Party became the new number one contenders for Impact tag titles. MJF and Chris Jericho defeated the rest of the Inner Circle in tag competition. Sting's first match was teased as Darby Allin accepted a street fight against Team Taz. Follow the show @NoCountOutsPod . Keep tabs on hosts Matt Dahlberg (@M_broski21) and Tyler Pearson (@T_pearson10four). Email the show at NoCountOuts@gmail.com! — This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

Cody Rhodes’ Heel Turn is Coming, and It’s Inevitable

On the first Dynamite following his TNT championship win over Lance Archer at Double or Nothing, Cody Rhodes addressed the AEW fans and gave subtle clues on a darker alter ego on the horizon, one not seen since his time in WWE. AEW has proved its dedication to long term storytelling. There was a slow burn between Jon Moxley and Chris Jehrico. The all-out war that happened to feature the Young Bucks, Adam “Hangman” Page, and Kenny Omega, both had tremendous build-up and rewarded fans for paying attention to details. Cody has been dropping clues about a possible heel turn for months and in his coronation speech on dynamite he finally revealed the reason he will renounce his baby-face persona.

An Inevitable Heel Turn is Coming for Cody Rhodes

The Clues

Rhodes has been a heel for a large portion of his career and with good reason, he is an exceptional talker and worker for that role. We have not seen him be a true heel since he left WWE either in the indies, New Japan or inside of AEW. Cody Rhodes will become a heel again and the evidence is already there.

Cody has been careful to leave hints right out in the open, but there are also examples where fans have to look deeper into his past to find the foreshadowing of the coming turn. Let’s have a look at the things Rhodes has said, the actions and inaction he has taken on pay-per-views, dynamite, and his run in the pro wrestling indies this past couple of years.

MJF

No one on the AEW roster has been more outspoken against Cody Rhodes’ character than Maxwell Jacob Freeman. MJF betrayed his mentor and made it his mission to besmirch the Rhodes family name ever since. It has drawn him nuclear heat at times and erupted when the former protege pinned Cody earlier this year at Revolution in Chicago. Most heels say disgusting things to get over as a villain in front of the crowd, but some of what MJF says about Cody has an air of truth in it.

MJF has always maintained that the reason for his betrayal was Rhodes was not who he appeared to be. The people that associate themselves with Cody are there to be used to advance his career. Interestingly, MJF chooses these words to describe how Cody treats his friends and family. Has Rhodes reciprocated the support Brandi, Dustin, QT Marshal, and Arn Anderson have given him without fail? Or was MJF’s heel turn a stand-alone event with no bearing on Cody’s storyline?

Brandi

Easily the person closest to Cody, Brandi has been alongside her husband for nearly every match since the nightmare collective folded last year. In those matches along with segments interspersed through dynamite, we have seen where Brandi has been put in harm’s way, both accidentally and other times with a bit more intent. When Cody is in championship fight mode Brandi comes second, that’s not conjecture, that’s Brandi’s experience before Cody’s pay-per-view fight with Chris Jericho at Full Gear last November.

Also, when Cody faced off with Darby Allin in the semi-finals it appeared as though he threw Allin into Brandi despite knowing his wife was behind him. Finally, possibly the most damning moment where Cody’s ego showed through was his inaction after Jake Roberts covered his wife with his trademark snake and mimed heinous motions over her unconscious body. Rhodes never delivered a promo, he let Anderson talk for him on the go-home show before Double or Nothing.

Dustin

The eldest member of the Rhodes family is a strong veteran wrestler who has worked without his half-brother most of his career. However, after a heartfelt plea by Cody after their match at the very first Double or Nothing, the two have teamed together and have stood up for each other much more. However, during the other semi-final of the TNT championship tournament, Cody had an opportunity to stop the contest between Lance Archer and the Natural, Dustin Rhodes.

QT Marshall held the towel in his hands asking, almost begging Dustin to let him end the fight before he made his decision Cody ripped it from his hands and refused to throw it in. This may have been a matter of pride, but the match was over from a realistic standpoint. Cody could have saved his brother from taking even more unnecessary damage. In the lead up to his match with Archer, Rhodes only acknowledged his “need” for the title, he never talked about the match as a way of vengeance for his family.

Kenny Omega

One of the people who battled for power with the second generation pro wrestler and fellow member of the bullet club was Kenny Omega. Many people were speculating back in the tandem’s NJPW days that Cody was jealous of Kenny’s popularity, and talent and that it would lead the nightmare family patriarch to launch a hostile takeover of the bullet club and leave Omega on the outside looking in. The payoff to their tension was never to be, but to this day both Rhodes and Omega still acknowledge they don’t always see eye to eye.

If Kenny becomes a threat in the eyes of Rhodes what will Cody do to maintain his place in AEW?

The TNT Championship Title

On the May 27th edition of Wednesday night dynamite, Rhodes cut a promo as the very first TNT champion and it didn’t start like anyone expected. “Tony (Schivone) do you know why Tom Brady is my favorite quarterback?” He explained that both he and Brady were passed over multiple times by organizations and despite that fact have legacies that speak for themselves. The analogy being made hinges on the fact that Rhodes was the fourth phone call made by Tony Khan when making a merit-based pro wrestling promotion.

“It (being called 4th) doesn’t bother me, and if there is a tinge of bother it is absolved by the fact that in my right hand is the TNT Championship, and I am the very first champion of America’s greatest network,” Rhodes admits to having a sore spot or a chip on his shoulder for being snubbed for the first couple draft picks as it were when selecting the greatest free agents to start AEW. If Rhodes were ever to lose the title, these old feelings would resurface. In the press conference immediately following Double or Nothing Cody talked at length about what the title meant to him, it is important to him personally as it is professionally.

How Does it Happen?

Dropping the championship for Cody will be extremely difficult considering how attached he is to it. Losing the TNT championship would be the most likely opportunity for a change in personality. While a when is difficult to predict, the person to take the title is much less in doubt. While Jon Moxley is a fan favorite it’s very hard to characterize him as a pure babyface. Mox is the ultimate badass, a lone wolf who oozes charisma. While fans root for Moxley his persona will never be a replacement for Rhodes if he does indeed fall.

Who Triggers the Turn?

AEW has many likable wrestlers who could hold the title and perform at a serviceable level. There is only one wrestler, however, who has an unmatched rivalry with Cody Rhodes and always gets the best out of him when they square off. Darby Allin has had three matches with Rhodes each time getting closer to beating him. As mentioned before, Allin collided with Brandi Rhodes and appeared to be redirected into her by Cody. When listening to the promo by Cody leading up to that contest it’s clear he perceives Allin as a threat. A title win by Allin would not only elevate the profile of the Seattle native but would force a new chapter in the Cody Rhodes story.